II. THE 1000 BALLOTS – Member Commentary

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So the tactics are changing. NOW members are being told that the extra
money in the bank will allow them to sue more studios to get us work
back, (Work the rank and file will never see); and also that the union is
now over $700,000 in debt, which flies in the face of Secretary Lasley
reporting at the last GM Meeting at the end of October that the union
was $450,000 in the black for the first 6 months of the year.

They are getting more desperate and their obfuscations more blatant.

It is vital that ALL members who see the blog send it to their Local 47
and even AFM Colleagues. The AFM has got to know what the Local is
doing here in Los Angeles.

Please help us make sure ALL members know what’s going on.




I did actually get this exact call. I know we are not in debt,
but I also know other members are getting the same call.

So I wrote this:


Will The REAL Truth Please Stand Up?!?!?

I just got a call from someone on the building committee tasked with
making phone calls in order to sway me into a yes vote on the sale
of the building.

This individual said that Local 47 was $700,000 in the RED…. A
serious deficit which required the sale of our building to clear,
or we all go down.

$700,000!!! Do these people know how to balance a check book?
If so, when was the last time they did it before spending MY
money I trusted them with?

I can’t trust this executive board with the money I gave them.
That is now as clear to me as the nose on my face. So how
do they expect me to trust them with millions more of my
money on a building protected for the members? They
couldn’t even handle the dues money I was paying them.

I can’t even get my head wrapped around the level of incompetence
members have allowed to run our Union when no one ran
against this administration at the last election.

$700,000 deficit!?

That phone call meant to scare me into a yes vote, it
just backfired.

Oh I am not done. I have more to say:

Since when did Local 47 begin adopting the practice of
most managements in regards to scaring people into a
decision, threatening “your organization will go dark if
you don’t do as we tell you to! Now agree with us and
do as we want you to do! Let us take away your rehearsal
services because you won’t even have a job if you don’t
let us clear our deficit by removing your rehearsals!!”

As an orchestral player who is seasoned now in experiencing
managements scaring the cr*p out of us,  and seasoned in
watching how fear grips us and we end up willingly giving
up our rehearsal time because maybe our negotiator was
not willing to fight hard enough for us…. This phone call
was all too familiar. It was like our union stole a page from
managements playbook or something.

After experiencing managements, imagine getting this call
from this campaigner who is clearly in favor of selling the
building, and he sounded NO different than most managements
these days: “We have to sell the building (get rid of your rehearsals)!
We need to clear our $700,000 deficit! If you don’t say YES, you
won’t have anything in the end. Better to agree with us.
Something is better than nothing”

Once again, musicians have to give up what is theirs so they
can clean up someone else’s financial mess?

Operative words, “someone else’s”.

We do our part. We show up to rehearsals. We pay for their
financial mistakes.

We pay our union dues. Now we are asked to give up our
building because of their financial blunders?

What do we get in return from managements in orchestras
and from our union when we are forced to give up something?
We are thrown on stage under rehearsed and low moral,
and our union ran off with my money and no accountability
other than to try to scare me into now giving up my union building.

This angers me. This really makes me hot under the collar. Who
is a musician suppose to be able to trust if there is no competence
in either managements of orchestras or even our union?

I have one last point to make before I am done:

Either Local 47 is lying in this campaign, trying to scare me
into a yes vote, OR, The Secretary is the liar when he told
members that Local 47 is in the black and that the union has
no debt. Which one is it? Who is lying?

Is the executive board lying about being in the black?

Or are they lying to every member in the union with these
campaigning calls about being in the red by HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS of dollars!

There can not be two opposing truths!

This administration, either way, needs to ALL be thrown out of office.

They were the last administration under Trombetta who had
secrets and railroaded members for their own agendas.

And here we are again. Almost the same board because no one
in our membership had the guts to run against them and no
one in our membership cared enough to run an entire slate
against the slate. Now we have the same administration
under the “leadership” of Acosta, who was former Vice
President and who clearly learned his top-down aggressive political
tactics to strong arm musicians from the former President Trombetta.

$700,000 in debt!

I thought musicians had legal protection against an
administration running us into the ground!

Where is proof of which version is the REAL truth?

Real truth? Local 47 is happy to report that we are in the
black and have no debt.

Real truth? Local 47 is $700,000 in the RED, we have to
fix our deficit problem ?

Will the REAL truth please stand up!

[EC: Gary Lasley said at the Oct., 2015 general meeting the Local
was approx. $450,000 IN THE BLACK for the first 6 months of 2015.
So did they lose 1.15 million dollars from the July to the beginning of

Not a chance.

The RA-RA Caller is lying to every member they tell that to…
or Gary Lasley was blowing smoke at the October
meeting, when he said we were $450,000 in the
black at the beginning of October.

So which is it? Call the local and ask.

The Musicians’ Club owns the property….the Club is solvent
…..pays the property taxes and turns over the surplus to 47.
The value of the Club belongs to the membership.

As was reported earlier in the blog (November 22nd)
by a well placed source:

The Local has ZERO debt. It has approx. $975,000 in CDs,
invested in multiple places. The Local has always had
enough money to pay CASH for all of the repairs or
improvements and even new buildings, i.e. the rehearsal
The Local has spent over a million dollars on the property
in the last few years. The rehearsal building was $530,000.
The auditorium remodel was $360,000. The remodeling on
behalf of the Federation west coast offices moving in was
around $100,000.
A new chiller for the bulk of the AC for the building was
$65,000. The Club “CLUB 47″ generates income – $290,000
in 2014. The property tax gets paid, some money gets paid
to the local on the two loans for the rehearsal building and the
auditorium remodel, and barring any other major expenses for
the building, the rest gets turned over to the local. That is in
the club bylaws.
So the idea that the Local can not afford a new roof at this
point is really not true. They will likely end this year in the
black as they have laid off at least four employees in the last
few years, have not replaced our computer system admin,
Candi, who sadly passed away.
They have almost undoubtedly cut legal expenses- I think
in 2013 they spent well over $200,000 of the members
money on that- so the desire and rush to sell 817 Vine
has to be about something else.
Not because they can’t figure out a way to pay for the roof.
In late 2012 and the first half of 2013 they came up with
$460,000 to pay the federation back work dues that the Local
owed them. They will take in at least 4 million this year in
dues; they have shrunk the staff and have hopefully curbed
excess spending on lawyers- but they still want at least 10
million dollars….!]


II. THE 1000 BALLOTS – Member Commentary

What Executive Board Members Say About The Extra 1000
Printed Ballots:

In answer to your question someone posed on the most
recent blog edition, the extra thousand ballots were not
printed with different language. If that were the case, the
executive board would have printed a few thousand extra.

According to Executive Board members, they were printed
with the same language, and at the same time all the others
were printed.

According to Executive Board members, the extra 1000
ballots were printed with the intent to give to any individual
who claims they never received a ballot a second ballot… etc

That I am aware of, there has been no mention by the Executive
Board to the members of any oversight to make certain a
person can not vote twice.

To my knowledge, the executive board has never made it
clear what measure of transparency members have to make
certain the extra ballots are not used as fillers if they are
missing their quota and/or making certain no one votes
twice. Or, for that matter, helping someone vote who couldn’t.
Well, I guess the later notion (helping someone vote who
couldn’t) falls under the category of using the extra printed
ballots as fillers to make certain the quota is met.

Regardless what conspiracy theory my mind comes up
with in its state of ZERO trust given to this administration,
the Executive Board has not ever printed anything about
these extra 1000 ballots in the Overture nor have they given
members any sort of reassurance of full transparency.

All they have given us is an aggressive sales pitch with very
little information, and a ballot that does not even ask for
permission to sell the building. The ballot is written in a
manner the building WILL BE sold.

Because of the wording of the ballot, it seems to me that
these extra thousand ballots could be another possible
underhanded move by the Executive Board to make certain
the ballot-quota is reached.

After all, without transparency, (and in light of a ballot
forcing the sale of a building against the will of some
members who would actually like to vote on IF the
Executive Board/Club 47 even has permission to sell),
how can ANY member actually know if someone really
voted or not, or if an individual voted twice.

Consider this: There are extra ballots somewhere. How
can we be certain that the executive board would not use
their power of secrecy they have demonstrated in regards
to this sale to use some of these ballots as fillers to make
up for any missed quota needed.

Considering how hell bent they are to sell the building,
to the extent they are not even asking us for permission
to sell, it is a FAIR question to ask, “what measures have
been taken to ensure transparency to the members?”

Considering all the other secretiveness and the aggressive
agenda to sell the building, I certainly do not trust what
I hear from board members about an extra 1000 ballots
having been printed to hand out to anyone who claims
they never received one.

This administration has demonstrated to the members
that they do not do anything altruistically. They do
everything agenda-driven.

Therefore, in my mind, what are the odds that these
extra 1000 ballots will be “fillers” to pad the quota,
and some people will vote twice who feel strongly
about selling the building?

Member With Zero Trust

[EC: We have a slightly different take. Someone reported
to us that they saw a huge stack of returned ballots (either
wrong, returned to sender or incomplete addresses) And
those extras could be to replace those.

Also, As we understand it, the ballots themselves are
numbered, so they can be matched to individual members,
even if a replacement is needed.

We’re certainly for having every measure of accountability
for the vote.



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I have followed the saga of a potential building sale
with both interest and amusement. Interest because those
who wish to be honest members of the local on behalf of
their brothers and sisters need only to follow the money.

Who stands to benefit financially from this transaction?

And amusement because this sort of trickery has been
tried before in another local. Unsuccessfully I might add.

So if you are truly skeptical and want to protect the
future of the local, get off your collective rear ends
and do something.

Mr. Kool Aid


I am truly grateful to the holder of this site who
has shared this impressive article at at this time.


I recently received another call from some local 47
employee wanting to discuss the vote on selling the
building. He mentioned several reasons why the union
needed to sell it – it was old, needed repairs, etc.

But then he said they had a $700,000 deficit and that
really caught my attention. I could of sworn that at
one of the October meetings one of the officers said
they had a surplus of $450,000 or close to that for
the first half of the year. Now the guy says they have
a $700,000 deficit?

Did they just blow through over a million dollars?
I don’t know what or who to believe! The guy asked
me if I had voted and I said not yet. I found the ballot
and saw that 22 million number- If I can’t trust them
with 450 or 700 thousand, no way can I trust them
with 22 million!

A NO vote is going into the mailbox next week from me

[EC: As we’ve said many times, we do not believe this
ballot can be trusted. In our view the only way to
guarantee a no vote is not to send it in!]


Just got a  call from an employee at local 47 (Is that even legal?)
encouraging me to vote yes to sell the building. I told him I was
concerned about wording of both yes and no votes basically
meant the building would be sold. He said that was not true.

A “yes” vote is for selling the building and a “no” vote was for
not selling the building. He also danced around the wording, 
hemmed and hawed a little and then finally said that the
lawyers put the wording together.  Hmmm. 

Anyway, thought you guys would like to know.


‎Well, certainly there is misconduct on the part of the local.
There may even be criminal misconduct. 
If the AFM were to investigate the matter, would members
be willing to provide testimony re: the local’s deceitful activities?




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TUBA CHRISTMAS – Los Angeles 2015

When: Sunday, Dec. 13 from 7 to 8:30PM
Where: Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills – Hall of Liberty

I hope that you and your family will be able to
come to Tuba Christmas.
The concert is FREE and FREE parking too!
The Hall of Liberty seats 1200, so don’t worry
if you’re a little late!

The address for Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills is:
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If you’ve never attended a Tuba Christmas you’re
in for a real treat!

This will be the 40th Tuba Christmas in Los Angeles.
I will be playing with the L.A. Tuba 12 – a group of 12

Tuba and Euphonium players that will be featured
during the concert on three very special arrangements
of Christmas Carols.

But the bulk of the concert will be the mass tuba ensemble with 250 plus Tubas, Sousaphones, Euphoniums and Baritones playing all of your favorite music of the season.
We even have a couple of Hanukah Carols!

So please come if you’re not already busy. It’s a wonderful concert that you’ll absolutely LOVE, I promise!!

Bob Joles


KJAZZ 88.1 FM radio host Bubba Jackson will host

BOB MINTZER Holiday “Jazz” Party Concert 

Bob Mintzer’s ALL STAR Big Band
with YellowJackets members

MOSS Theater
The New Roads School
3131 Olympic Blvd
Santa Monica, CA 90404
Free parking on site


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Special Guest Janis Mann

Monday December 14
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Come join us for great music, great
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Alex Budman
Phil Feather
Glen Berger
Kirstne Edkins
Lee Secard
Matt Fronke
Jeff Jarvis
Stan Martin
Mike Rocha
Javier Gonzalez
Scott Whitfield
Ryan Dragon
Erm Navarro
Craig Ware
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Adam Alesi – drums
Tiki Pasillas – percussion

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JANUARY 6, 2016
ALBERTO GINASTERA (Celebrating Ginastera’s Centenary!)
Pampeana No.1, Op.16 (1947)
Violin Sonata No.3 in D minor, op.108
Jacqueline Suzuki – violin
Rosa LoGiudice – piano

JANUARY 20, 2016
Michael Vlatkovich – trombone
Willian Roper – tuba




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Roch Bordenave: Trombone
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At Typhoon on the last Tuesday of the year!

One Set
3221 Donald Douglas Loop South
Santa Monica, CA
310 390-6565

Dear Friends & Colleagues:

It is my pleasure to invite you all to the first concert of
our 16th season on January 10, 2016 at 3PM at the San
Gabriel Mission Playhouse, 320 S Mission Drive, San Gabriel,
CA 91776. This concert is, as usual, Admission FREE.

This concert is titled “World Premiere!”

Brett Deubner, Viola Professor at Queens College, New York
and Inna Faliks, Piano Professor at UCLA will join the orchestra
as soloists in the World Premiere performance of the Divertimento
Concertante for Viola, Piano & String Orchestra by American
composer, Frank Levy.

The special prize winner at the 2015 Annual ASTA-LA String
Competition, 11 year old Alexander Fried, will also be
performing as soloist in the 1st movement of the Weiniawski
2nd Violin Concerto.

Dr. Luis Zuniga, one of the fine conducting graduate students
at CSULA will be the guest conductor in Mendelssohn’s Overture
to A Mid Summer Night’s Dream.

Beethoven’s 7th Symphony will finish off the concert after the

The orchestra consists of young musicians ages 12 through college
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audition process every year. Please come join us in supporting these
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is attached for your convenience. Please feel free to pass this along
to your family and friends.

Tickets with the date and address as a reminder is available, please
let me know how many you would like by replying with your mailing
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Looking forward to seeing you at the concert.

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  1. Name withheld says:

    About the video on the Vienna scoring stage, it speaks volumes about our business and the LA musicians promoting it.

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